Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 2:51 PM
I called this blog, "Exploring the origins of evil." Up until now, I have skirted around the subject, describing evil deeds without addressing the motives of the evil-doers. Identifying the essence of evil is a huge, perhaps impossible, challenge -- but I would like to begin, in a modest way, by thinking about the motivations of a small group of men who carried out a war crime.
Their crime was one of many committed in the wake of the capture, in July 1995, of Srebrenica by Bosnian Serb forces commanded by General Ratko Mladic. The only thing that distinguishes this crime from other mass killings of Muslim prisoners at places like Kozluk and Branjevo Farm is that this particular execution was captured on videotape. The killers were so confident they would never face justice that they filmed themselves engaging in acts of cold-blooded murder.
You can see an edited version of the video here, but be warned: It contains some graphic scenes. I have also provided English language captions of the back-and-forth between the executioners which is almost as horrifying as the act of murder itself. As the prisoners lie helpless on the ground, in the scene above, the murderers taunt them with ethnic slurs, crude vulgarities, and talk of revenge for crimes committed against Serbs. At one point, the execution is delayed as the killers go off in search of a fresh battery for their video camera.
The video was first shown at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal in the Slobodan Milosevic trial in June 2005, after being turned over to the court by a Serbian human rights activist, Natasha Kandic. It was subsequently shown on Serbian television and had a profound effect on Serbian public opinion, paving the way for the arrest of Mladic in May 2011.
The victims of the execution are all Muslims from Srebrenica, murdered around July 16, 1995, near a town called Trnovo on the outskirts of Sarajevo. They appear to have been brought to the Serb-held frontline town -- more than 100 miles from Srebrenica -- as part of an effort to parcel out responsibility for the murders. A paramilitary unit known as the Skorpions, or Red Berets, were given a group of six frightened young prisoners to execute.
DNA and other evidence has led to the positive identification of all six victims. For the record, their names are: Azmir Alispahic, 16; Safet Fejzic, 17; Smajil Ibrahimovic, 34; Sidik Salkic, 36; Juso Delic, 25; and Dino Salihovic, 16. They had all fled Srebrenica when the United Nations "safe area" fell to Mladic's forces on July 11, 1995. The two older men were forced to drag the bodies of their companions from the execution site into an abandoned cottage, and were then executed themselves. The bodies were doused with petrol and set alight.
The Skorpions commander, Slobodan Medic, decided to videotape the execution as proof of his unit's "combat exploits." The cameraman, Slobodan Stojkovic, testified that videotapes were distributed to members of the unit as "souvenirs," and were even available for rental for a time from a videostore in the town of Sid in northern Serbia, where the Skorpions were based. A Belgrade court sentenced Medic to 20 years in prison in April 2007, with lesser sentences for other Skorpion members.
According to the Serbian state prosecutor, the killers hoped to conceal the crime by executing their captives "in the vicinity of a previous battlefield so as to create the impression that they had been killed in the fights."
So what motivated the Skorpions not only to commit the crime -- but to compound it by recording their actions in such a gruesome manner?
I will try to answer this question, or at least tackle it, in a subsequent post. In the meantime, please help me out. Use the comments section to tell me what you think was running through the minds of the killers of Azmir, Safet, Smajil, Sidik, Juso, and Dino when they committed the murders?
In the meantime, here are some other scenes from the execution, beginning with the men being led to their deaths.
In the next photograph, you can see the moment of execution. Two more men are waiting to be killed, their hands tied behind their backs.
In the final photograph, you see a member of the Skorpions watching Sidik and Smajil dragging the body of 16-year-old Dino to the deserted house, before being killed themselves.
Once again Michael Dobbs is displaying the shallowness of his approach to Srebrenica issues, while trying to capitalize on the fact that his readers are probably even less informed than he is.
For starters, the controversial video of alleged “Srebrenica executions” was initially presented in court by ICTY Prosecutor Jeffrey Nice during the Milosevic trial on June 1, 2005. The relevant trial transcript can be accessed on the ICTY website at http://www.icty.org/x/cases/slobodan_milosevic/trans/en/050601IT.htm The video figures in the direct examination of witness Stevanovic roughly between pages 40277 and 40287. Since when dealing with Dobbs it is always a good idea to check, double-check, and check again, readers are advised to review the transcript first before they do anything else.
If they do that, they will notice several things. The first is that prosecutor Nice offers no foundational evidence that the video is in any way linked to Srebrenica. On page 40278 Presiding Judge Robinson asks Nice: ”Mr. Nice, can you tell us about that film?” to which Nice responds somewhat guardedly, “Yes, to a degree I will,” but he never keeps his promise. Amicus Stephen Kay then interjects: “We haven't established any foundation for this. To my mind, this looks like sensationalism. There are no questions directed to the witness on the content of that film in a way that he can deal with it. It's merely been a presentation by the Prosecution of some sort of material they have in their possession that has not been disclosed to us and then it has been shown for the public viewing without any question attached to it. It's entire sensationalism. It's not cross-examination.”
To which Judge Robinson adds: “Mr. Nice, there is some merit in that. That's why I asked what we are going to be told about the film. Who made it, in what circumstances, and what questions are you putting to the witness in relation to it?”
The foundational issues in relation to this video are never resolved. However, turning to the witness, Nice discloses what his questions are going to be: “I want your assistance, please, now or later, with the identification of and with the function of the people we can identify from this film.” [p. 40281]. Further on Nice reiterates his purpose: “They're here for identification of the unit and for examination of to whom the unit was subordinated.” [p. 40283] The individuals whom the witness is asked to identify are members of the Scorpions unit who are alleged to appear in the video.
So the first point that readers need to be aware of [but which Pulitzer Prize hopeful Michael Dobbs did not reveal to them] is that the video was played in the courtroom not to show Srebrenica executions but in order to put unrelated personal identification questions to the witness. Foundational evidence linking it to Srebrenica was never produced. The “identification” questions were probably a ploy to enable to prosecution to make the video public and to enable the propaganda machine to do the rest. The legal pretext for showing it was soon forgotten. By relentless repetition and misrepresentation [Dobbs’ blog being just the latest example] in the public mind the video became associated with Srebrenica executions.
The second point which also makes this affair highly dubious is that the alleged Srebrenica victims from the video were supposedly taken 100 km away to a completely different area of Bosnia to be executed and buried, as Dobbs also claims. But even by Dobbsian standards that is preposterous. Would anyone who is killing 8000 people in the general vicinity of their capture bother to separate just six of them and take them 100 km away in order to conceal evidence of the crime?
Dobbs must be running out of “Srebrenica genocide evidence” if he feels compelled to dramatize his claims by offering a video about which we know nothing and that, on the face of it and without corroborating material, has nothing to do with Srebrenica.
Karganovic is denying facts that have been established not only by the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal but also by courts in Serbia. In their agreed statements of facts, defendants in the Vujadin Popovic trial at The Hague have also confirmed the identity of the six victims named in my post as Muslims "last seen alive by their families in the Srebrenica enclave at the time of its takeover by Bosnian Serb forces in July 1995."
Of course there will always be crackpots out there who claim that two and two do not add up to four. If Karganovic was simply a lone individual, he could be ignored. Unfortunately,this is not the case. He is the representative of an NGO funded by Republika Srpska which is thereby helping to promote his outlandish conspiracy theories.
When The Facts Were Established
Stefan Karganovic has a point in that the facts hadn't been established when the video was first played in the Milosevic trial. The video was never even an exhibit in that trial. Facts about the video were only established subsequent to the Milosevic trial -- which he may not have realized because the only trial referenced by the article is the Milosevic trial.
Dusan Janc testified at length in the Tolimir trial on 23 September 2010 about this video, the DNA identifications of the victims, and their links to Srebrenica -- which were not apparent at all when the video was first played five years earlier in the Milosevic trial.
Mr. Stephen, you are completely right...
But you must know that Mr. Dobbs write this because he is paid by Muslims, to spread their propaganda, so they can spread more around Europe. So that is the reason why Mr. Dobbs doesn’t write about the facts that during the war in Bosnia they had mujahedins an Al Qaeda members from all over the world, and they did horrible crimes in Bosnia against Christian population (Serbs and Croats).
Why didn’t Mr. Dobbs write about fact that 1991 to 1993 over 8.000 innocent civilian Serbs (most of them women, old people and children) were killed in Sarajevo in the most brutal way one can imagine. Please see this link and where you can see all about those murders of Serb civilians in Sarajevo, by Bosnian Muslims and mujahedins:
http://theremustbejustice.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/europe-ignores-the-fact-of-8-000-murdered-serbs-in-sarajevo/
But Mr. Dobbs doesn’t write about those terrible crimes against Christians u Bosnia, because he is not paid for that. He prefers to write stories ordered by Muslim mujahedins.
Mr. Dobbs, Mr. Karganovic is right
The matter was discussed before a neutral party, namely a judge, who determined that this video did not fulfill standards of proof required to assure that the enterprise was connected to the incident in question.
The tape indicates close cooperation of all concerned in the recording of the incident. Most other such incidents were recordings by a single person without consultation, at least during the production, with anyone else.
Is there a drop of blood anywhere? The filming is very close to the bodies, yet nothing about the bodies indicates traumatic disruption.
Sentences numberless of the alleged executioners are recorded, yet none of the supposed pleas of the executed are heard. What of screams | cries | objections? Not a sound is heard from any of the massacred. An unusual phrase, "women & children first", emerges from one of the alleged shooters.
At 4:00 the beginning of the falling of men shot occurs. Presumably, anyone not shot would be standing. Why is it then, that at 4:40 two men, who were laying down, evidencing their having been shot, suddenly get up again, being noted to be ones who were not shot?
The Daniel Pearl video was fraudulent; death ensued precedent to the lopping of the head, obvious when the absence of blood is noted. Perhaps such videos are made in war time to 1) demoralize enemy soldiers, & 2) desensitize friendly soldiers to the horrors of war.
Misha is right. Everyone is getting tired of Michael Dobbs' Srebrenica claptrap. The clown Adalin's comical offers of bargain garments in the comments section here are more intersting [and ultimately informative] than Dobbs' tired rehashings of Bosnian war propaganda. Michael should get the message and get out of the Srebrenica business before he becomes as ridiculous as Adalin.
First of all: Great blog!
Second: Is there an unedited version of the video, that's referring to in the post, somewhere?
Adam Haglund
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Malmö, Sweden
Any room left for heretics here?
Poor Dobbsie is losing his scholarly, analytical cool. “Foreign Policy” readers are entitled to some intellectual honesty, and please spare us the diatribes. What "established facts" is Dobbs talking about? The authenticity of the Srebrenica video that is the subject of this blog? That was never established by ICTY because it was never put by the prosecution before the chamber as an issue to be adjudicated, as my references to the transcript clearly show. The Serbian court did try some of the perpetrators and found them guilty. That result can hardly be argued with. But it does not lend any support to Dobbs’ outlandish thesis that six people were separated out of a group of 8000 and taken a hundred kilometers away to be shot “in order to conceal evidence of the crime” committed against the remaining 7994. Dobbs apparently has a very low regard for the intelligence of his readers if he believes that they will buy that one.
I am happy to acknowledge that two plus two makes four, but it is Dobbs who is arguing that it equals five. I am sure he now regrets bitterly having approached us in our booth at the Belgrade International Book Fair last year thinking, no doubt, that he would have an easy time caricaturing someone who holds a different view. Before he came up I had never heard of him or of “Foreign Policy” and it would have been better for him if he had kept it that way. Now he has to deal with boomerangs after every posting, and it is not just from me but also others who feel encouraged by my example to enter the "state of denial" and to question his holy writ.
I suspect that Dobbs, who is apparently unaccustomed to anything less than adoring comments, will soon pull the plug on unfiltered reader responses on his blog. Let us wait and see.
But in the meantime, when arguments fail what else is left but cheap shots to divert attention? Of what significance is it who funds our NGO? What matters are the positions that we take and the facts and arguments with which we support them. Is Dobbs getting a salary from someone, or is he working for free? As for the “conspiracy theories” ploy, which happens to be the last refuge of contemporary intellectual scoundrels, I challenge Dobbs to produce one such theory that I ever suggested.
I do not advocate any theories Dobbsie, I deconstruct unsustainable, politically motivated theories put forward by others, including yourself. Nya, nya!
I am happy to answer that question, as I feel readers have a right to know. I am receiving a stipend for this project from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Committee on Conscience which is intererested in studying past genocides and war crimes in order to prevent future ones. I am not receiving any funds from any party to the conflict in the former Yugoslavia or from the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal.
Now that we have cleared that up, could you tell us who is funding your NGO, the Srebrenica Historical Project?
As long as we're linking people's views and their ethics to the political agenda of the people paying the bills, then let's take a look at who's financing the ICTY:
http://www.icty.org/sid/16
I see a lot of NATO member states, allies of NATO members, and Islamic countries on the list -- along with a lot of NGOs from NATO countries. If you think countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are making donations to the Tribunal because they care about justice and human rights, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn you might like to buy.
According to former NATO spokesman Jamie Shea, "NATO countries are those that have provided the finances to set up the Tribunal, we are among the majority financiers." ... and who was NATO bombing -- oh yeah, the Serbs.
Could it be that NATO states and their allies are supporing the Tribunal so that it will write a version of history that justifies NATO policy in the region?
NATO states aren't just donating money either, they're generously donating staff to the Tribunal as well. Staff who report back to their embassies. If you believe Florence Hartmann's book, Geoffrey Nice (the lead prosecutor in the Milosevic trial) was an MI6 Agent.
Graham Blewitt (deputy prosecutor under Del Ponte) was interviewed by the Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad. They published the interview in their June 19, 2004 edition and he said NATO gave the Tribunal money to carry out an investigation against the Macedonians - there was a quid pro quo -- money in exchange for an investigation, and he mentioned that NATO member Holland destroyed Srebrenica evidence, including film, as part of what he called a "Cover up":
http://vorige.nrc.nl/dossiers/joegoslavie_tribunaal/organisatie/article1623116.ece
Apparently, what they posted online isn't the whole interview. I've got a friend in Holland who saw the whole thing in the printed newspaper and Blewitt talks about how the United States provided the OTP with staff who reported back to the American embassy about what was going on in the Tribunal.
You've got a lot of people working for the Tribunal who are agents for their respective governments, and who might have a political agenda that causes them to fabricate or suppress evidence. The United States fabricated evidence of WMD (remember Colin Powell's slideshow at the UN) and used it as a pretext to attack Iraq. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility.
We receive a grant from the people of the Republic of Srpska through an allocation voted by their democratically elected National Assembly. That Assembly includes members of the Muslim faith who so far have also voted in favor of our receiving that grant. So just as in Michael Dobbs' case, the source of our assistance are non-parties to the conflict. At least that would be the conclusion if we are to credit the sincerity of the claim made by Dobbs and others from his camp that responsibility for war crimes is strictly individual and not collective.
I will not comment on the informative remarks made here by others in relation to the financing of ICTY and other influential actors in the Srebrenica controversy who are pushing the same party line that Dobbs is promoting, but in his case as a stage extra or, more precisely, as a journalistic stringer. Suffice it to say that what is important in a polemic is the authenticity of facts and the credibility of arguments. Dobbs could be financed by the Mother Theresa Foundation for all I care, and for all that it matters. He has not done his Srebrenica homework, he doesn't know what he is talking about, he is rehashing unedited wartime propaganda of a decade and a half ago, and he does not have a single creative analytical idea or intellectually challenging thought. My advice to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Committee on Conscience is to dismiss him forthwith to avoid further embarrassment.
Who Pays For the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum?
Mr. Dobbs,
If I'm not mistaken, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum was established by the United States Government, and receives a lot of its funding from the United States Government.
Actually, I'm certain that I'm not mistaken about that, because that's exactly what it says on the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's own website.
http://www.ushmm.org/research/library/faq/languages/en/06/01/106-292/
That kind of puts you and Stefan Karganovic in the same boat. Karganovic's NGO receives funding from the Republika Srpska Government, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum receives funding from the United States Government.
To my mind, people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. A person in your position shouldn't be making remarks like, "If Karganovic was simply a lone individual, he could be ignored. Unfortunately,this is not the case. He is the representative of an NGO funded by Republika Srpska which is thereby helping to promote his outlandish conspiracy theories."
What about the views you're promoting on this blog and the lexicon you're using to describe these events? Your charactarization of Karadzic and Mladic as "evil," the way you've recklessly thrown around the word "genocide," and the way you've called people on the other side of the argument "genocide deniers".
I have a strong suspicion that if you were investigating war crimes committed by the United States or its allies, and you used the same kind of inflammatory rhetoric to describe American politicians and American military forces, that you've used to describe Karadzic, Mladic, and the VRS that the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum wouldn't fund your work.
Go ahead, I dare you, do some research on something like the Dasht e Leili massacre -- which is just as bad as anything that happened at Branjevo Military Farm or Kravica Warehouse. Unarmed Taliban prisoners suffocated to death or outright executed in container trucks by our Afghan allies in the presense of American troops, and then dumped into mass graves which were later tampered with to conceal evidence of the crime -- and in your research be sure to call George W Bush and the American military commanders "evil" and be sure to refer to the US military and our Afghan Allies as the "evildoers" for their crimes against the unarmed Taliban and suspected Taliban prisoners. And then let's see how anxious the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum is to fund that little project.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sponsored a research project on Dasht e Leili, but I'll bet they'd make certain that the researchers they selected gave the United States every benefit of the doubt and didn't use inflammatory rhetoric to describe what happened -- which is quite different from what's being done to the Serbs with regard to Srebrenica.
the identification of the faces? The images are blurred. All the men look like people I know, judging from the hair & clothing. One of my nephews appears to have been among the murdered. Should I go to the Hague to tell them this?
IF Dobbs is supported by the US Holocaust Museum, he's on the State Dept payroll. IF not, let's hear a clear statement of his arrangement with HolMus... Let's hear it, Dobbsie: what's the budget? HolMus is a State Dept front operation whiach, for its inauguration invited Franjo Tudjman (Thank God, my wife is neither Serb nor Jew) and the Ottoman revivalist Alija Izetbegovic (Islamic Manifesto / Islamska Deklaracija). In 1999 HoloMus security kicked out the president of the Survivors of Buchenwald, John Ranz for distributing leaflets announcing a a demonstration against Bill Clinton's undeclared war on the Serbs.
Thank you for broaching this topic Mr. Dobbs. This goes right to the heart of the matter.
In my view, the massacre happened because the Bosnian-Serbs believed that Nasir Oric and his men were responsible for atrocities against Serbs and that they posed an ongoing threat. They killed the prisoners in order to avenge the perceived misdeeds of Oric's forces and to elminate a fighting force that they perceived to be a threat.
Statements on the tape like telling the prisoners, "You didn't wait when you were killing Serbs" and denying them water because they had allegedly denied it to Serbs, would tend to corroborate that thesis -- but I'm not entirely comfortable using the Skorpions as an example.
General Morillon gave extensive testimony about the state of mind of the Bosnian-Serbs in the region when he testified in the Milosevic trial. He said, "I wasn't surprised when the Serbs took me to a village to show me the evacuation of the bodies of the inhabitants that had been thrown into a hole, a village close to Bratunac. And this made me understand the degree to which this infernal situation of blood and vengeance led to a situation when I personally feared that the worst would happen if the Serbs of Bosnia managed to enter the enclaves and Srebrenica."
He said, "I feared that the Serbs, the local Serbs, the Serbs of Bratunac, these militiamen, they wanted to take their ." revenge for everything that they attributed to Naser Oric. It wasn't just Naser Oric that they wanted to revenge, take their revenge on, they wanted to revenge their dead on Orthodox Christmas. They were in this hellish circle of revenge. Not only the men. The women, the entire population was imbued with this. It wasn't the sickness of fear that had infected the entire population of Bosnia-Herzegovina, the fear of being dominated, of being eliminated, it was pure hatred."
I'm not sure the Skorpions are the best example we could be using here. The Skorpions were a group of criminals and mercinaries from Krajina. For the most part, the Bosnian-Serb military units based around Srebrenica were manned by Bosnian-Serb refugees who had formerly lived in the enclave. The Skorpions were outsiders, kind of like Drazen Erdemovic and the members of the 10th Sabotage Unit were outsiders.
The Skorpions are actually kind of an odd unit. They were disbanded in 1996 but reconstituted themselves in 1999 and volunteered for the Serbian MUP in Kosovo during the NATO bombing, and while they were there they massacred 19 Albanian women and children in Podujevo -- a crime for which they were prosecuted for war crimes by Serbia. One of the Skorpions, Dejan Demirovic, fled to Canada and the Canadian government took its sweet time in extraditing him back to Serbia in spite of the warrant out for his arrest.
An example of the type of thing the Serbs held Oric responsible for can be seen on videos like Popovic trial exhibit 7D00667. You can download the MPEG file from the ICTY archives and watch the video. I tried to post it on YouTube once before, but they took it down because it violated their policy on "shocking and disgusting content" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8o7ozy3fMc ) .
The video shows the bodies of Serbs who had been massacred, and according to the narration on the video they had been massacred by Oric's forces, and you can see that some of the victims have had their throats slashed, others have had their eyes gouged out, and some have had been disembowled or had their genitals mutilated.
Videos like this, and rumors about this sort of thing, made their way around the Serbian countryside created a really terrible and hostile environment. If you download the video, you can see from the picture quality that the tape has been copied over and over again.
This is why they did what they did. This is why they massacred almost every military aged man from Srebrenica that the got their hands on. They wanted to kill the people responsible and make sure they couldn't do it again. It was a terrible crime, but it was motivated by vengance and hatred, not genocidal intent to destroy the Bosnian-Muslim ethnic group.
One question I would ask is why the Bosnian Government forced so many refugees to stay in Srebrenica against their will? Why wouldn't they let the UN evacuate them? And why didn't they try to help them when the enclave came under attack? Why did they just abandon them the way they did?
Looks like I was right about the inevitable introduction of censorship in the comments section as the number of critical responses mounts. What happened to the clown Adalin and his cheap garments offers? Has he been pushed under the bus to test the waters how readers would react? Has he been replaced now by Candytata6 for comic relief?
Your conspiratorial instincts are getting the better of you. Adalin and Candytata6 were deleted as spam. That has nothing to do with censorship.
The leading spammer is M. Dobbs.
That was just a hypothesis and by no means a conspiracy theory. Your explanation for the disappearance of these two odd but interesting characters is most satisfactory. Everyone is relieved that this blog remains a bastion of critical inquiry and free expression.
Something must be at stake in the scene. This “thing” that’s at stake is the engine driving the reader on.
As you write/edit a new scene, be clear on one goal. I love this line in Story Engineering: “A scene that merely describes a place, or even something about a particular character, yet nothing really ever happens in the scene–no decision, no information, no action, no change or forward motion to the story whatsoever–the scene violates … storytelling principles.”
If you only deliver one piece of information to take out of a scene, then this is perfect. Less is more.
If you have Aaron realising Belinda cheated on him, and Belinda realising she made a mistake sleeping with Carter, and Carter thinking that he’s always had a thing for his best mate, Dean. A + B + C + D = confused!
Break up these goals into different scenes. That way, you can focus on the one mission,
The puzzle pieces make up one path to one goal.
plant vital subtext, concentrate the readers’ focus on what they should be paying attention to.
James Patterson is known for his mission-driven scenes–and chapters.They’ve sold him 220 million copies of his books, apparently.
However, this method might not work for you. What must work is to let your reader know the piece of information they should take out of a scene from your story. If the plants exist, if you describe a colourful room–this isn’t a scene. That’s scenery. Something must happen to drive the story forward.
And how can you end your scene on the best note? (Cliffhanger alert)
I’ll share my favourite ones that Larry Brooks shares in Story Engineering:
He would write it for Lauren, to honor her memory, the consequences of blasphemy be damned.
She was smiling, as if she knew something no one could.
He would kill Gabriel Stone himself, face to face.
Closure sometimes required a bullet to the brain.
Gabriel recognized the face, then the clothes. As he stared, the dark haired woman from the library said, “Hello Gabriel.” And then she smiled, raising a gun to eye level.
Thankyou
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Videos like this, and rumors about this sort of thing, made their way around the Serbian countryside created a really terrible and hostile environment. If you download the video, you can see from the picture quality that the tape has been copied over and over again. This is why they did what they did. This is why they massacred almost every military aged man from helpwithbaby Srebrenica that the got their hands on. They wanted to kill the people responsible and make sure they couldn't do it again. It was a terrible crime, but it was motivated by vengance and hatred, not genocidal intent to destroy the Bosnian-Muslim ethnic group.
Ratko Mladic has been described as "one of those lethal combinations that history thrusts up occasionally-a charismatic murderer." What drove the Bosnian Serb military commander to order Europe's deadliest massacre since World War II? Could it have been prevented? Michael Dobbs, a U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum fellow, investigates.
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